Cool, that main haul road will get "improved" for our riding enjoyment
Yikes! Once they start cutting we'll have to migrate. That area has a high concentration of game trails that people ride bikes on.
what's affected? Off the top of my head...Buckets, Turtle, Black Andy's...doesn't look like it reaches over into the Narrows.Also, there is/was a bid out for a smaller harvest near Yellow Hill, east side of the Quarry Gap blue blaze..no known paths thru it that I'm aware of.
That one already went out to bid about a month or more ago. Nothing affected in that sale.
I'm not a map expert, but it looked to me like it might affect Upper and Lower Coal Hearth as well as the others you mention.
not sure about upper but you're correct about lower. hey camp do you want to go out wednesday for the guided tour of the area?
Hopefully the bulldozers can remove some of the rocks from the trails and smooth things out while they're at it. At least they'll get the big logs out of the way for sure.
Looks like all of Hearth/Hermit to me, and Upper and Lower Buckets. A little of Turtle/Four Logs too.
Hey Clown.What time are you thinking?
So what's the answer? Map it and make it more IMBA appropriate and therefore protect it? Or keep doing it the way it has always been done? I just don't know the answer to that one. I don't know enough about IMBA/Forestry relations/regulations. Anyone? Bueller?One more thought. AnonyMouse, give it a break.
I'm for legitimizing trails and getting them protected. The reality is that use of public lands will always be increasing. If we want areas to ride we have to get these trails "recognized" by the agencies that are responsible for governing the land they are on.The argument that we should keep the trails secret so no attention is called to them is unrealistic and tragically short sighted
travis,Big picture, it goes beyond giving DCNR a map with a bunch of squiggly lines on it and asking them to protect it. Once a trail becomes 'official', it is inventoried, and as a result of that, it will now be a 'resource.' Since it is now a 'resource' for the state, it then has to be managed. Which is an increased workload on the already budget strapped local 'managers,' who happen to be the first point of advocacy contact.....Do you think they really want to add to their workload, when it's easier to just post a 'No Bikes' sign and ignore it, ala CommService, or just cut it all down and ignore it? It's an uphill battle.Regarding this particular harvest, the prospectus is out there and any chance of preserving those existing corridors is probably long gone...enjoy 'em while they're there....probably won't start yanking trees out there for at least a year.
... to get small increments of additions to the red-blazed network. Even if it had to be connected to existing, that wouldn't suck too bad. Any good trails in that area? any been on a race map?CS is a tad different being a SP, where by default trails are no-bikes.
I doubt that corridor preservation is off the table at this point and certainly wouldn't take anyone here's word for it when we can just go ask.I nominate Larry and Frank to have a conversation with the DCNR folks.
Honestly, I think we could see logging start as early as this winter or next spring. Earlier this summer, a timber sale went out to bid off Peach Orchard Rd in Beetem Hollow. They have been actively logging there now for at least the past month. Depends on the company that wins the bid.
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